| 9:20 12/05/2012 | Re: Rising |
| UU is doing great at the moment for one reason - the markets are falling back, the banking and euro crises continue - UU is benefiting from the flight to defensives. cheers frog in a tree By frog in a tree |
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| 17:30 11/05/2012 | Rising |
| After about 20 months oscillating round the £6 mark, but never threatening to stay above 630, we've had a week (where the market has been weak) when UU has looked strong above 630. Apart from a move to defensives, can't really understand why. By Hardboy |
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| 13:21 07/04/2012 | Re: Brokers Rec |
| You dont realise how complicated and technical it is !! You have to lick your finger - just the right amount of spit - and the stick it in the air. RHS goes cold - Shares a BUY LHS goes cold - Sell shares BOTH - its now winter Finger gets wet - try again tomorow. Then visit bank and cash £000000000's Pay check By RobbinK |
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| 22:27 05/04/2012 | Re: Brokers Rec |
| I'm sure they will have ways of calculating it - as you say based on sales, profit, assets, growth, position in sector etc. factoring in interest rates, inflation, state of economy etc. By Hardboy |
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| 17:10 05/04/2012 | Re: Brokers Rec |
| 'United Utilities - Goldman Sachs - Neutral - target price 735p How they recommend Neutral if they think it's worth 20% more than the current price? Brokers!!!!! Dooooh!' I'd like to know how they calculate a 'target price' Is it based on parameters such as income/gross profit etc or is it a guess? By Ingenious Solutions |
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| 20:10 02/04/2012 | Re: Brokers Rec |
| Yes I agree, a 20% upward price target is a strong buy! This share has a lot to offer and should be a core holding. By turkey10 |
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| 16:32 02/04/2012 | Brokers Rec |
| United Utilities - Goldman Sachs - Neutral - target price 735p How they recommend Neutral if they think it's worth 20% more than the current price? Brokers!!!!! Dooooh! By Hardboy |
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| 16:55 27/02/2012 | Ingenious Solutions - off topic |
| IS - Appreicate the explanation - always good to get inside understanding. (I'm a Chemical engineer by training - so understand something of pumping fluids) In talking of long pipelines, I wondered if you were familiar with the tail of C Y O'Conner and the Goldfields water supply scheme? From the time I heard about it I was very impressed with the achievement and remember it for the tragic outcome. But I rate it as one of the greatest engineering feats in the history of the world - when you think it was built over 100 years ago, and the vast temperature variations the pipe would expereince, from day to day to pump water over 300 miles is some achievement: then when you think of the political pressure on him too & all the criticism & name calling he would have suffered. Interesting tale, if you're not familiar with it; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Y._O'Connor By Hardboy |
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| 8:21 27/02/2012 | Re: Plan £2.6bn 'rail pipe' to bring w... |
| These schemes have been looked at in the past and some companies such as Severn Trent and Yorkshire Water have built transfer mains within their own area. I was Resident Engineer on the Severn Trent North-South link main back in the 80s. The problem with them is often pumping costs and, contrary to popular opinion, water cannot simply be put in a pipe and magically emerge for use 100s of miles away. It has to have a motive power either gravity or pumps and the latter introduces high running costs as water is heavy and expensive to move around. Whilst the UU scheme is simple and eye-catching, I would expect there are cheaper and more effective ways of moving the water. Such as using such existing conduits as the canals and rivers. Also Birmingham has it's own demand for water and does not have a great surplus despite the Victorian provision of the Elan alley aquaduct. By Ingenious Solutions |
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| 10:37 26/02/2012 | Plan £2.6bn 'rail pipe' to bring water to the South By JON REES 5:18 PM on 25th February 2012 http://bit.ly/xU5X5S |
| United Utilities plan £2.6bn 'rail pipe' to bring water to the South By JON REES 5:18 PM on 25th February 2012 http://bit.ly/xU5X5S By SpikeyDT |
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| 10:35 18/02/2012 | Water bill and inflation. |
| Just a record of my true inflation so I can look back at it later Water from UU 2010-2011 £423.78 2011-2012 £449.18 that's 6% inflation. By GatorHex |
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| 13:48 10/02/2012 | Re: Debt levels |
| True, but I think they're with us for at least another year By Hardboy |
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| 11:52 10/02/2012 | Re: Debt levels |
| Interesting thoughts folks which are along similar lines to mine, interest rates will not stay at ultra low levels indefinitely is the only additional point I would make. By EssentialInvestor |
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| 9:00 10/02/2012 | Re: Debt levels |
| Due to the high cost of providing new infrastructure, water companies must borrow to fund development. The recent White Paper agreed with the current structure of these businesses so that they would remain a solid investment going forward. Water charges are reflective of the debt funding needed for these companies. There is no possibility of these companies borrowing to fund dividends. By EVPorated |
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| 7:07 10/02/2012 | Re: Debt levels |
| I read an analysis on the utility sector recently - can't remember where, or the full details - in which the high level of debt carried by these businesses was addressed. The conclusion was, one should always compare apples with apples, and oranges with oranges, not apples with oranges. To judge if UU.'s debt is high only compare it with other UK utility businesses. The regulated business & largely captive customer base, gives utility firms far better confidence of future earnings than many other businesses, thus, the article concluded, they are able to carry higher debts than in other sectors. By Hardboy |
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