16:25 17/01/2017 Re: BP spin off raises concerns
Les Aker BP likely to do quite well. No cause for concern at all. http://www.oedigital.com/component/k2/item/14417-aker-bp-eyes-250-mmboe-in-2016-2020?utm_campaign=Fuel+For+Thought&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=40780122&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8Qw8DzlcdF5IPrDSDxy2YQQ_Vu3lmZzphmcUXy85chQGlTJmASHddq13ZJvpZtqi28E2kQ9Ne5XZpW22kyB2RTqvOpig&_hsmi=40780122 OM
16:25 17/01/2017 Re: Hard Brexit......
LKH Unfortunately that Miller woman put paid to any chance of putting anything other than the final deal to Parliament. Otherwise May could have put to Parliament an outline of the line she would be taking, invite comments to be taken on board in the negotiations, and then trigger Article 50 knowing what would, might or wouldn't be accepted by Parliament. Then, bayonets out, and off to Brussels to harvest a few sprouts.
16:23 17/01/2017 Re: NO Brexit......
Arm Ball, "As Teresa said we have to all accept it and all come together to make it work the best it can" Says the PM... who has a self-interest in that being the case; we don't HAVE to accept it at all... and at the next Elections (note plural) I fully expect at least one Party to be standing on a vote to rejoin at least parts of the Single Market if not the whole EU again. That will depend on what's negotiated in the next 2 years plus a further year for people and industry to start seeing impacts. If a great deal is negotiated and it appears to be working then all well and good but if not then in particular the 2025 election will be interesting.
16:16 17/01/2017 Re: lolabe
"You have still not explained what you meant by Mussolini having got to the right ideas before Hitler." No, I meant the right idea is that country comes first, not class divides. Which the Americans fought a civil war for this reason well before that even - well, not to let some states break out of the Union.
16:09 17/01/2017 Re: Nicola is not happy...
Nicola's only happy when she's in the news. Couple of good posts back there, well done chaps.
16:07 17/01/2017 Re: The Green Thing
PR - "BTW - I can also still jive - if I had a partner who could." Good on yer, m8. Can Chinese jive? Not everyone can. You are in China, aren't you, or have I got you confused with someone else. Anyway, jive by yourself and have fun. Jive night tonight in Winchester :).
16:02 17/01/2017 Re: NO Brexit......
Raft said he was going mute again for a while. Even though he passed his own referendum threshold.
15:37 17/01/2017 Re: NO Brexit......
Bunsie, "Hopefully some decent leader will arrive to defend the civilized Remain cause" He or she will have to get their skates on ... once Theresa has triggered Article 50, that's it, shipm8e. No going back! We're on the final bomb run ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y LKH on the flybridge where in hell is Major RAFT?
15:29 17/01/2017 Re: The Green Thing
Lupo ''You're really old, PR.'' Nah m8, not really - you are as old as you feel. I can still climb the small, local,very steep mountains here in half the time of some twenty year old students. I can run 5k, well jog 4 and three quarters but then sprint the last 250m and leave young students laughing at themselves because they can't catch up with me. Well that was up to 2 or 3 weeks go when I found I had an abdominal varicose vein pain problem. I've slowed down a bit, to see how things go. '' Wasn't too impressed when an aunt put the spuds in to boil after fishing out the laundry;'' That is just what my grandfather used to do when it wasn't being used for the laundry, put in all the smallest potatoes that were too tedious to peel, then they would be mashed in the boiler/copper with some 'meal' and the whole lot would be fed to the hens who would supply our eggs. Hey, I forgot to mention the bed warming, apart from hot water bottles, mum used to take the shelves out of the oven - heated by the fire - wrap a towel around them and put them in our beds to warm them up - no sissy central heating in those days. I don't recall smog being green, but do remember bus conductors/conductresses walking in front of the bus to guide them in the fog. I remember once in the fifties, working in my first job and leaving work one afternoon, the fog/smog was so thick I couldn't see my feet, and I am not quite as tall as you. I did appreciate the 'Green Thing' joke. BTW - I can also still jive - if I had a partner who could. Kind regards PR
15:26 17/01/2017 Re: NO Brexit......
Sir Buns-Up, "Roll on the next Referendum." Can't see it happening, m8. First off, if there WERE to be anither yin, the guvmint would surely require there to be a two thirds majority for whatever way the voting went. Because referenda are supposed to be merely advisory one needs to have such a big vote in favour of whatever in order to have the moral right to implement the decision. Cammy screwed up big time on that front. Second off, once we trigger Article 50, that's it. No going back. So what would there be to have a referendum on? ... if you see what I mean. I'm a converted brexiteer who voted Remain but feel that there is now no alternative but to get behind the process of leaving and make the best fist of it that we can. I urge you to do likewise. No point in being a grumpy old curmudgeon, m8. BP's down a bit. LKH on the flybridge
15:19 17/01/2017 Re: Nicola is not happy...
For heavens sake the SNPs main policy indeed only distinctive policy is an independent Scotland.Nothing else matters to them. If the UK had voted remain Nicola Sturgeon would now be calling for a second referendum on the basis that now we were in a Europe moving towards a federal system with all major powers increasingly passing for ever to an unelected group of white male middle aged Belgian & Luxembourg politicians working under German oversight the time had now come for all residual powers to be devolved to individual countries within the UK. Ironically Brexit has made the SNPs position more difficult.A stand alone unsubsidised Scotland in the EU euro zone,with its vast & costly public sector,its weak private sector dominated by UK defence industries & a declining oil sector with its only success its financial services sector geared 90% to English PI market;who in their right mind would keep their money in SNPs Scotland with the risk of massive withholding tax.Edinburgh could soon be the Athens of the North. Not an easy deal for the SNP to sell to its subsidy loving supporters.
15:17 17/01/2017 Re: Nicola is not happy...
The thing is JW if the sweats voted to leave and their economy gets in such a mess they wanted to come back, how could we do this ? Their economy isn't massive but why would we want to absorb a whole lot of debt, an army of unemployed and a broken infrastructure; not to mention 6m people who have been used to a different set of laws and a very generous benefit system ? If they vote out it will be forever so I don't think when they have to sign on the dotted line they will.
15:17 17/01/2017 Re: NO Brexit......
I did not bother to listen to May's speech as it was no doubt geared to pander to the xenophobic lumpen proletariat. The woman has not been elected Prime Minister and has no mandate. Most "changers" I know have move from their Leave position as their vote was merely cast as a protest against the Conservative Government and its austerity policies. Two years is a long time in politics. Hopefully some decent leader will arrive to defend the civilized Remain cause and trounce an infighting Tory Party - which is certain to occur. Most peeps on the street are currently only interested in the NHS and blame this Government for its parlous state. When their bills rocket and their jobs go they'll have new attitudes. It is the duty of all thinking people to sabotage this stupid project at every opportunity by all means possible. IMHO, SBK
15:07 17/01/2017 Re: NO Brexit......
With respect Buns you have to stop living in La La Land - if this speech wasn't clear evidence that Brexit is happening I don't know what is ? As Teresa said we have to all accept it and all come together to make it work the best it can A high percentage of remoaners have now turned the corner and are on board - come and join us !
15:06 17/01/2017 Re: Hard Brexit......
Guitar "And there you are guilty of your own confirmation bias" I was simply reacting to what I had just seen on BBC news. I have a ticker on my PC which was showing a 2.5% rise in Sterling and a 0.7% drop in the FTSE. At the same time the Beeb was reporting a "slight" rise in Sterling and drop in the FTSE. I note that they did eventually report the percentages on their web site but it is self evident what the editorial policy is. I am well aware of the current volatility of both Sterling and the FTSE and having been selling capital goods overseas for most of my life am aware of the effects. The media does use those fluctuations to suit their points of view. I agree that Sterling was overvalued and that we do not want a stronger currency in the short term but my comments were just to illustrate BBC bias. From a personal point of view I am cursing Sterling at present as am about to set off on a world trip visiting Hong Kong, New Zealand and USA :-(